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Q: Hello Snowy.
Welcome to The Metal Pit. It’s an honor to be interviewing
one of my favorite musicians.
Snowy
Shaw: Is that so? Ok,
thank you extra much then.
Q:
Unfortunately, I didn’t get a chance to meet you in
Atlanta last year during Therion’s headlining appearance at
ProgPower USA. What
were your impressions of the festival and do you believe that that was
truly
Therion’s last U.S. performance?
Not if
it’d be up
to me.
Prog Power was
just fucking great! I met so many nice people, it felt almost like one
big
happy family, or actually more like some kind of a hippie commune for
metalheads. I’d love to go back there soon again.
Well, towards
the
end of our last US tour in 2007 Therion leader Christofer surprised us
all when
he went public and said it was the last US tour Therion would ever do,
but I
don’t really think he meant the occasional one off show or
festivals though.
Q: Since
you’ve just released your live album “Snowy
Shaw is Alive!” which is a live retrospective to your
recording career in metal
music. Personally I think it sounds great! What made you think of doing
this
live recording at this point in your career?
Personally?
Hahaha! So far I’ve only received the best reviews and
response for it, so I assume
you’re not the only one who think it sounds great.
Well, to be
honest
I didn’t set out to make a live album per se, that
wasn’t part of my original
plan. You know I did this one big ass show and had it recorded and
filmed for a
possible DVD, but then since the response was so over the top mind
blowing I
wasn’t gonna rule out the possibility of
doing more shows when and if the right
opportunity presented itself, so
then had a change of heart and decided to put the DVD on the back
burner until
I’ve collected more footage and stuff. In the meantime though
I thought it’d be
nice to release the recording as a live album.
The whole
conceptional idea was for me to go out there and play “All my
favorite songs by
all my former bands” on one hand to sum up my career so far
and on the other
hand to give people the best and most entertaining show possible. Not
necessarily songs from my personal recording career, although
I’ve
singelhandedly have written more than 50% of the music I performed
while the
rest are stuff that
I’ve been playing
together with the original bands in the past.
Q: The video
Live Showreel in the Wunderwurld is such
a bombastic and epic live performance, it leaves me wanting more live
footage!
Is there any chance of ever seeing the entire performance on a special
dvd? I
know you stated there were issues with the company that recorded the
audio for
the performance.
Yeah
absolutely, there
will surely be a live DVD release in time, but like I said, I want to
film and
record a couple of more shows before that and really make it the way I
personally would have wanted it, with some of the best pieces and
moments from
a number of shows including behind the scenes material and so on
instead of just
using one single two hour show straight up and down in its entirety.
Eventhough
at the show in Gothenburg the audience were completely freaking out,
amazed out
of their minds saying they have never ever seen anything quite like it
before
and that it wasn’t just another ordinary heavy metal concert.
I even saw
people
up front crying out of joy, which felt kinda weird I must admit. I
guess what
I’m trying to say is that I’m not pushing it back
because it wasn’t any good,
because believe me it was.
I had my buddy
Patric and his Revolver Film Company staff to capture the whole
spectacle on
film, and he’s such an unquestionable pro and have worked
with loads of big
names like In Flames, Arch Enemy, Europe you name it.
So may I
suggest
to the readers that if given the opportunity, you should really jump to
it and
get your assess down there to watch my kick ass live performance in the
flesh
first hand, which is still the ultimate way of experiencing it, or any
live
show for that matter.
As for the
issues
you mentioned, I don’t know what you’ve heard but
it’s all settled and taken
care of now and I won’t be using them again for any upcoming
shows.
Q: Do you have
any plans for doing another “Snowy Shaw
All Star Band” live at any point in the future? Personally, I
would love to see
a performance at ProgPower USA in Atlanta. I think the fans that attend
the
festival regularly would love it!
Yeah, fuck
yeah!
I’d love to bring this unique spectacular live performance to
Prog Power and I’m
sure the american metal fans would love it too.
Next up,
I’ll be
doing a very special Halloween event show in Sweden right after I get
off the
Therion 25 anniversary tour in Europe. It’s one helluva huge
live show event
and stage act and with some very interesting things going on on stage
where I
throw in a few very special secret guest appearances in the mix. If
half of it
goes according to the plan it’s gonna be nothing short of
fantastic. But saying
that it requires shitloads of planning and preparation is like the
understatement of the century. And I need to arrange, organize and
co-ordinate every-fucking-thingway
in advance before the Therion tour kicks off since it ends in Ukraine
only a
few days before the Halloween Event.
By the way, on
the
strong advise of my agents and managers it’s just called
Snowy Shaw and I decided
to drop the misleading all-star-band tag.
Q: The majority
of metal fans were first introduced to
you as the replacement for Mickey Dee in King Diamond, but
you’ve gone on to
represent yourself not only as a world-class drummer, but also as a
spectacular
frontman. What was
your impression of
working with King as both a performer and as a person? Did working with
him
inspire you to become a frontman or was that always a goal to get out
from
behind the drums?
I
can’t emphasize
enough how grateful I am for the opportunity I was given to play with
the King.
I was a complete rookie and that’s where I cut my teeth being
thrown into that
crazy rock n´roll circus. Most definitely I learned a lot
from it and got both routine
and experience, but maybe not so much in the way you might think as
being
inspired by King in that sense. Despite our age difference I guess
it’s fair to
say that we both share very similar kind of influences and passions
with music,
horror and stage acts, and above all I’d say the main common
denominator is
Alice Cooper and what he did for stage performances in the 70s in
general and
with Welcome to my Nightmare in particular.
But of course
long
before I joined the band I was a big fan of Mercyful Fate and K.D. I
have a lot
of respect for King and his legacy, or any artist who devote their
whole life
to their art without compromise like King have. Kudos to that.
No, I never
really
had any desire to step out from behind the drums to begin with. And it
actually
never really crossed my mind until maybe when I started my own band
Notre Dame
in the mid-late 90s, and figured no one could better represent my music
than
myself. That’s been the fucking dilemma throughout my whole
life from when I
first started playing music and every single band I formed or got
involved with
would fall apart without exception because there was never any singers
to be
found. Eventually
it got to the point
where I was so damn frustrated with the whole situation that I said
Fuck it!
I’m gonna do the singing myself then. This notion would
probably have occurred
to me a lot sooner if I’d been a bassplayer or guitar player
up front, but for
various reasons to sing while drumming isn’t exactly the best
or most common
combination.
It
wasn’t as easy
as it may sound though, it’s not until about right now that I
feel I start
getting the hang of it a bit better. There’s been many times
when I regret not
starting out singing instead of playing the drums when I was a kid.
Q:
What’s your relationship with King now? Do you stay
in contact? Is there any possibility of doing a guest appearance when
King
Diamond tours again?
We had a very
long
talk over Skype about a month ago and I can’t tell you how
happy I am that he’s
well and back on track after the triple bypass, his back problems and
all. Over
the years we’ve kept in touch very sporadically although I
haven’t actually met
the man in person for about 15 years.
Many people
have
asked whether I’d be doing a guest appearance when King will
be playing Sweden
Rock Festival, which I’d love to do if I wasn’t on
tour in Latin America at the
time. Some other time down the road perhaps, or maybe King will do a
guest
appearance on my show, who knows...
Q: Memento Mori
is a band that I wasn’t familiar with
until I heard the new live album, now that I’ve had a chance
to go back and
revisit that material on YouTube, I have to say it’s quite
impressive. What was
it like working with Messiah Marcolin in the band?
Next question..
hahaha! Just kiddin’, Messiah is like the nicest guy you can
imagine, like a
big teddybear of a person and it’s always nice to hang out
and socialize with
him, but professionally, well, that’s a whole different
ballgame, and it’s already
pretty well documented by the Candlemass guys so I don’t
think I need to add
any more fuel to that fire. And having said that, there are probably a
few
people who consider me a pain in the ass to work with too, and
that’s fine, but
I can assure you it’s for very different reasons and
that’s another story. I
think on the first two Memento Mori albums we were on to something
really cool
but unfortunately there was a clash between Messiah and myself during the recording of the
second which I
suppose led to its demise.
Make no
mistake, I
think Messiah is one of the most phenomenal, original and unique front
men and
singers there ever been in rock history. Let me tell you, Candlemass
was
supporting King Diamond on the european tour 1990 and it was a real
pleasure
and privilege. Normally I rarely care about watching the support act
but this
was different, I became their biggest fan and watched them practically
every
night. During the after party on the first or second night I told them
we need
to swap places, because I thought they were just so unbelievably
fantastic.
Whatever the
reason
might have been for our differences in Memento Mori sadly things
didn’t gel,
but lots of water under the bridge since then and we’re on
good terms now. In
fact it didn’t take more than a year or so after we were
butting heads in
Memento til we played together again in another band called Collussus.
Q: The Opera
Diabolicus project “+1014”
was released recently, which, in my
review I categorized as “if Therion, King Diamond, and Dream
Evil had a Satanic
bastard child”. (Which is meant as high praise! Haha!) How
did your involvement
in a metal opera about Countess Bathory come about?
Oh man,
there’s
been loads of twists and turns on the long winding road to its release.
But I’m
delighted that it’s now getting such astounding response with
great reviews and
plenty of Album of the month nominations in the metal circuit all over
the
world. Especially since I had actually begin doubting this album would
ever see
the light of day.
Initially I was
brought in as the last man to do some vocals in the fall of
´06, after that
songwriter/guitarist David had been terrorizing me for several
months
with phonecalls and eventually I folded and agreed to do it. Turns out
the
compositions unexpectedly had a lot of potential although it was in
part rather
poor sounding and this nagging son-of-a-bitch was a really great guy
after all.
Later on they realized after the first mix that the drum machine
wasn’t cutting
it, so then they hired me to the drums on top of their crooked
recordings,
which is sort of the backward way of doing things if you ask me, but I
adapted
well to the circumstances and tried tagging along following what was
already
down on tape. A year or so later they decided to re-record all the
guitars and
bass but first after the second mix they hired me as a photographer,
stylist,
designer as well as shopping deals for record labels, which I did and
landed
them two or three interested parties with prominent metal labels, whom
in the
end pulled out and meant that some of the lead vocals wasn’t
up to par. So again
when they turned to me for advise I suggested Messiah would be the
perfect fit
for the project but unfortunately, as usual he turned it down saying he
didn’t
have time and wouldn’t wanna be distracted from working on
his own solo album
that he started in 1991 if I’m not mistaken. I then made some
phonecalls and
brought in my good friends Mats Levén and Niklas Isfeldt
from Dream Evil. Opera
Diabolicus then went on to sign with some german label but time went by
and
absolutely nothing happened and in the end they discovered that the
label had in
fact gone bankrupt, and they found themselves back at square one again
and had
to find a new label to the release their long awaited grand opus.
This is the
short
version of the story, but what never changed was that the songs and the
concept
were great and really had potential, it just needed to be executed
properly and
that took a while, but at least Andy La Rocque who mixed the album
could then
afford buying a new house with all the money they spent in the studio..
Q: After
hearing the finished Opera Diabolicus album,
are you happy with how it turned out? Do you know if there any
possibility of
doing a one off live performance of +1014 or do you think it is just a
recording project?
Yeah, I think I
pretty much covered that in my previous answer.
As for live
performances, I don’t wanna rule out the possibility of
occasional ones in the future
but yes, this is more or less a studio project, or actually a rock
opera kind
of metal project that will do things and little differently compared to
the
usual metal band route. And personally I’ve been pushing for
us the fully
embrace a different kind of approach and emphasize on that uniqueness
or originality,
I’ve got some really great ideas up my sleeve, but it seems
it will take same
getting used to for the other guys.
I’ve
talked to Mr
Grimoire it and presented some ideas on how it could be done by not
doing the
normal conventional routine of playing support act gigs etc which
wouldn’t be
fair to this rather dramatic and epic doom metal version of a Rock
Opera. I
can’t see that happening within any forseeable future though,
but who knows
there might be a little guest thing happening towards
halloween…
Q: You
performed on the second annual 70,000 Tons of
Metal cruise with Therion. How was that experience and was there any
particular
events that stood out for you during that festival?
The whole
cruise
thing was just a terrific and yet unusual experience, one I never
expected I’d
be on in my life, almost like a paid vacation. Normally the artists are
kind of
separated from the fans in the sealed off backstage area and that kind
of
thing, but here we were all in the same boat so to speak, and it was
just
awesome. Everybody was very friendly,well behaved and respectful and
were all
getting along just perfectly.
It’s
not everyday
you can take a dip in the pool and sip on a beer in the jacuzi in front
of the
stage while watching Exciter or Edguy bashing and thrashing away.
One thing that
stood out and on a bad note, was that I was hanging out talking to
Bobby Jarzombek
who was there playing with Riot, an old favorite band of mine, but the
leader
and only founding member Mark Reale was hospitalized and
couldn’t attend and
then the next day I heard Mark had passed away just hours before their
show. How
incredibly sad and tragic news, I was just lost for words. R.I.P
Q: I asked the
readers of The Metal Pit what questions
they had for you. So here is a couple. What
instruments
do you play besides drums and what order did you learn them in. Also
what
singers were your influences growing up?
I began playing the drums when I was about 13
in the pop/rock band that
I founded and also wrote the lyrics in our native tongue , swedish. But
I had a
need to express myself and contribute more in the song writing and
eventually I
got tired of humming or voicing out the riffs to the guitarist from
behind the
kit so that’s why I picked up and fiddled around on the
guitar and gradually I
got a little better at it. All because the other guys didn’t
always have a lot
of ideas.
The singing never occured to me until many
years in my mid 20s, but for
the same reason pretty much. That old Do It Yourself mentality which I
could
very well be a poster boy for.
It’s kinda weird but somehow
I’ve noticed that there’s a special
relationship and mutual admiration between singers and drummers, many
singers
started out as drummers, for instance Bon Scott was originally a
drummer, so
was Iggy Pop, Nicke Andersson, Dave Grohl obviously, and many many more
that I
can’t think of right now
Another thing on this subject that’s
kinda funny that I recently came
to realize is that from a young drummers perspective, my favorite bands
when I
grew up had some of the crappiest drummers in rock, but in my opinion
the
greatest singers and the best songs or coolest concept.
I’m talking about KISS, Manowar and
Scorpions. So one can assume I’ve
always been more interested in good tunes with good vocals first hand
rather
than the drumming in itself. While I’ve met so many musicians
in my life who just
seem so caught up on their choice of instrument and are only interested
in
listening to those parts in the music as some of education, competition
or
whatever instead of the music as a whole entity.
To me it’s a bit like having a
disgusting
bowl of soup just because you’re a big fan of the carrot
which is one of the
ingredience.
As for singers, the aforementioned Manowar
singer Eric Adams, is
definitely one of my all time favorites that has influenced me
tremendously.
There’s tons of great voices and singers out there that I
admire and that’s
influenced me one way or the other, but my earliest recollection of
even being
conscious about a singer was Dan McCafferty of Nazareth, and to this
day he is
still one of my all time favorites and his voice is still the rawest
and
coolest voice I’ve ever heard. Then there is Axl Rose, Paul
Stanley, Klaus
Meine, King Diamond, David Byron, to mention just a few
And of course, needless to say, like everyone
else in metal, the Metal
God himself Rob Halford.
Q: Off topic
for a moment, you and I have
something in common (aside from the fact that we both own an adorable
French
Bulldog! Haha!) with our love of the band KISS.
Have you ever had the opportunity to
meet them? A lot of long time fans
are up in arms about Tommy and Eric playing the roles of the Spaceman
and The
Catman. What’s your opinion?
No, luckily I haven’t met them,
I’m a firm believer that one shouldn’t
meet your heroes though it might ruin your whole perception and
foundation on
which you’ve built your life on. I came to this conclusion
after I had met Joey
DeMaio, do I need to say any more?
As for the replacements in KISS, Hmmm, suit
yourself for opening that
box. I’m happy for both of them, they
probably got the greatest job in the
world, especially Eric Singer whom I can just assume was a midwest kid
who grew
up in the 70s loving both KISS and Alice Cooper. It certainly is no easy task to replace any
loved character in a band,
even for Eric Carr who was always considered the “new
guy” although he was
probably in KISS at least twice as long as Peter Criss. I even hear
people
talking about that “new singer” in AC/DC although
Brian Johnson’s been there
for about 32 years now.
And without those two guys or for that matter
any qualified guys
replacing Ace and Criss the ship would have sunk to the bottom a long
time ago.
Maybe that’s just me but personally I think they should have
ended it all with
a big bang at the turn of the millennium as was planned, or at least
promoted publically
that way, but they’ve been on the Farewell tour for close to
20 years now and
that’s ok as long as they enjoy doing what they’re
doing. Personally I couldn’t
have care less since I adamantly refuse to attend shows with any of my
old heroes
by principle anyway, simply because it breaks my heart and I rather
watch
younger bands who still has the kind of killer instinct my old heroes
used to
have.
On the contrary I think they should all be
replaced by 4 young and
hungry KISS clones. I always considered them like 4 fictious super
heroes
playing a role anyway, initially as an extension of their individual personalities but still they are no different
to let’s say Batman,
Spiderman and Dracula. It’s the ultimate concept, and it just
don’t get any
better. I’m pretty sure greedy Gene have already contemplated
this and have
tried convince the reluctant Paul a thousand times that they should
make a TV
show like American Idol where they pick out the best Gene clone among
thousands
of contestants. I for one would love to see my grandchildren
and their grandchildren
discover the KISS phenomenon just like I did when I was 7 years old,
which
forever changed and gave my life meaning. Otherwise I doubt
you’d be talking to
me right now if it wasn’t for the impact KISS had on me.
I guess I better stop now and shut the fuck up,
otherwise I can
probably go on forever on this subject and in general slam the pretty
naïve
point of view loads of fans seem to have regarding the honorable
reunions, all
done for their love of heavy metal and totally in denial of the fact
that money
has anything to do with it, and the hopes and great expectations that
once you
have the original Black Sabbath line-up together in a room once again
you can
only expect miracles and a new Paranoid album just like the good
ol´days.
Q: You seem to
be perpetually busy! What’s on tap for
Snowy Shaw in the future? Any specific recording projects you are
working on
that you can discuss?
There’s
a few
albums that I’ve been involved with in the pipeline just
about to be released
now before summer, like this project I’ve done with a french
industrial metal act
called THE CNK & SNOWY SHAW and few other projects.
Therion’s making a new
one too. For lack of a better word, it’s something very
special, even by
Therion’s standards.
I was just
about
to go into the studio next week to mix 2 songs I’ve been
recording for a
special occasion, but earlier today I had no choice but to call the
studio and
cancel the mix until further notice because I’m so much
behind schedule with
the recordings due to all the massive problems with my recording
devices,
upgraded systems and changing computers, uncompatible this and that and
what
not. It seems I’ve suffered every fucking perceivable
technical mishap in the
book over the last couple of months, and I’m frustrated out
of my fucking mind
here right on the verge of imploding.
I
had set off time and had every intention of recording my own new
material, but
what do you now, time flies and soon I’ll be on tour again. I
bet with my
normal luck I’ll eventually get it all to work properly right
before I go on
tour and then the whole damn house burns down ( laughs)
Please keep
your
fingers crossed for me, ok?
Q: Thank you so
much for taking the time out of your busy
schedule to do this interview. If people would like to purchase
“Snowy Shaw Is
Alive!” or Snowy related merchandise and also keep up to date
with all of your
various projects where can they find you on the internet?
Great, thanx
for
having me.. much appreciated.
I have a brand
new
webshop with tons of great stuff – check it out via my new
website www.snowyshaw.net
Otherwise, look
me
up on facebook where there’s a few fan pages etc besides my
personal ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3tG5w8bjbM
See you around,
stay true - All the best
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